10. Julie Gough and Leanne Waterhouse on Hannah Gadsby's Nanette

Episode notes:

Two guests:
Leanne Waterhouse:
https://www.leannewaterhouse.com

Julie Gough:
https://juliegough.net

'Nanette' by Hannah Gadsby
Reviews on main press publications:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/arts/television/nanette-hannah-gadsby-netflix-roundup.html
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-comedian-forcing-stand-up-to-confront-the-metoo-era
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/aug/19/hannah-gadsby-review-nanette

The key names and information mentioned during the conversation:
the Myall Creek massacre
http://www.myallcreekmassacre.com/Myall_Creek_Massacre/Home.html

Lyndall Ryan's mapping aboriginal massacres project:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/mapping-aboriginal-massacres-makes-it-time-to-recognise-the-colonial-wars-say-leading-historians-20170705-gx4y3m.html

The memorial at Fitzroy for the stolen generation by Reko Rennie-  https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/culture/aboriginal/en/audiotrack/stolen-generations-marker-remember-me-honours-fitzroy-community

Julie's work:
Chase, 2001, Tea tree installation.
https://nga.gov.au/Exhibition/unDisclosed/default.cfm?MnuID=ARTISTS&GALID=18777&viewID=3

Host notes:
In this episode, Three Bellybuttons was pleased to have two high-achieving visual artists: Leanne Waterhouse and Julie Gough to share their recent art experiences. Following Leanne's experience of watching Hanna Gadsby's Nanette on Netflix, we spent the whole episode talking about this amazingly unique comedy show and Hannah's brilliant performance.

Leanne proposed that standup comedy show should be considered an art form too. She believed Nanette had all qualities to be viewed as a piece of highbrow art. Leanne broke down the show into moments and actions from which a discussion was elaborated between us. Julie continued the topic on Nanette. As a person from the same city that Hanna is from, Julie suggested that Hannah blurred the boundary between comedy show and theatre works. By using the knowledge about Myall Creek massacre, Julie raised the question if the art was competent in assisting people of current generation to deal with trauma, especially the ones inherited from previous generations, and in producing memorials. This episode presented a heated, vibrant and smooth conversation that could be related to many listeners.

In the end, Julie revealed a book that she was finishing up for Lost Rocks series. It was the project including 50 Tasmanian people to write about rock. The book is called 'Shale'. it will be out in October.

Leanne's exhibition titled Subterraneans will be held at the Dirty Dozen (in Campbell Arcade, underground commuter walkway from Flinders street Station to Degraves Street). It is curated by Leanne and shows twelve artists who have studied at MFA course at RMIT. The show opens to the public from 20/7 - 24/8. The opening will be from 7-9pm on Friday 20/7. Please check it out.



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